You can build a software business that runs without you – but only if you stop building it like a freelancer.
In this episode of Jedan Podcast, Daniel Agbontean sits down with Jeremy B. Shapiro, author and business growth consultant, to unpack what it really takes to build, scale, and sustain a successful SaaS company.
Jeremy is not just a serial entrepreneur. He is the author of Your Business Growth Playbook and helps business owners scale using a proven playbook of profit focused growth strategies. And in this conversation, he breaks down what that actually looks like in the real world.
Jeremy shares how to turn expertise into scalable products instead of trading hours for dollars. He explains why recurring revenue changes everything and how simple systems create predictable growth.
Why does this matter?
Because too many business owners rely on hustle instead of structure. Jeremy makes the case that automation, clear positioning, and productized offers are what allow a business to grow beyond the founder.
But what if you are not “technical”? That comes up too. Jeremy talks through how software and digital tools are leverage, not obstacles.
The point is not to code everything yourself. The point is to design a model where revenue compounds and operations become repeatable.
For business owners who want to scale smarter – not harder – this episode delivers practical steps you can start using right away.
About Jedan Podcast and Host Daniel Agbontean

Jedan Podcast is built for people who want business explained in plain English. The show keeps things simple, practical, and honest.
Each episode features real conversations about starting and growing a business, including the mistakes, lessons, and turning points that rarely get discussed elsewhere.
The podcast is especially helpful for new and growing business owners who want clarity without jargon. Instead of theory, listeners get real experiences. Instead of hype, they get straightforward insights.
It is business education that feels approachable and grounded in reality.
Daniel Agbontean brings a unique perspective to these conversations. He is an entrepreneur and real estate professional with a strong background in compliance, risk management, and digital transformation.
With over seven years of experience in AML and regulatory environments, he understands structure, systems, and how businesses operate under pressure.
He is also certified across multiple compliance disciplines and has led cross-functional initiatives focused on process improvement and enterprise transformation.
That blend of operational discipline and entrepreneurial curiosity makes him a thoughtful host. As a result, his conversations stay practical, focused, and valuable for business owners who want to grow the right way.
